tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post4403602704827035270..comments2023-08-07T05:58:59.078-07:00Comments on Random Musings: GodMen? GodWomen?Rebeccahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01847552432061325769noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-12940989470499909452007-03-20T12:08:00.000-07:002007-03-20T12:08:00.000-07:00Well... I think that whenever we stop looking at G...Well... I think that whenever we stop looking at God and start lookng at ourselves, we risk sliding into idolatry. From there it's only a short step into all sorts of aberrations (and, glorifying one sex to the extent of scorning the other is hardly healthy. Men and women are not supposed to hold one another in contempt, they are supposed to love and complement one another):<BR/><BR/>Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.<BR/> Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07142238549004452002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-43877481243714213262007-03-19T23:15:00.000-07:002007-03-19T23:15:00.000-07:00CJ,If feminists are big into goddess worship then ...CJ,<BR/><BR/>If feminists are big into goddess worship then masculinsts are big into god worship. They are both a pagan notion, right? :-) In either case, their eyes are off of the Lord and on themselves. <BR/><BR/>They need to remember that it isn't about them. :-)<BR/><BR/>God can use a donkey if He wanted to. Being female or male does not make us special but being in Christ does.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for bringing out the pagan aspects of these movements.Corriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13771878099332439981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-74582055145829872572007-03-19T10:07:00.000-07:002007-03-19T10:07:00.000-07:00Corrie, there is such a thing, but it's pagan. The...Corrie, there is such a thing, but it's pagan. The feminist influence is big in the New Age/neoPagan movement, and those involved would have us think that goddess worship is older than the patriarchal forms of religion. But most of the ancient fertility cults involved a god and a goddess, and phallus worship, the worship of male sexuality and potency, is OLD, at least as old as Phoenicia and Baal. (the word Baal means, Lord, Master, and Husband)<BR/><BR/>Patriarchy is even older than humanity -- among apes and other animals, alpha males use copulation as a means to dominate females and lesser males alike. The most powerful male rules the roost, and passes his genes on, ensuring a form of "immortality".CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07142238549004452002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-65403438758336471642007-03-18T16:23:00.000-07:002007-03-18T16:23:00.000-07:00I just can't imagine starting a website insinuatin...I just can't imagine starting a website insinuating that the church is too masculine, that there is nothing in church for women, and that we need to get together as women because of this.<BR/><BR/>My SS teacher just got back from Cuba, and talked about what is going on in some churches there. I also saw some people from Ghana today -- there is a mission there to help release those who have been sex slaves to fetish priests.<BR/><BR/>There is just so much work to be done around the world that makes all this kind of trivial, somehow, when you hear details of Castro's Cuba, or of little children being forced to be soldiers in the LRA (Uganda), or of enslavement of women to pay for the sins of their ancestors (Ghana), or of similar things in Sudan.simplegifts3https://www.blogger.com/profile/08000500581749760466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-46687140081908960202007-03-17T22:41:00.000-07:002007-03-17T22:41:00.000-07:00I have the same nagging feeling, Rebecca. I wrote...I have the same nagging feeling, Rebecca. I wrote about this on my blog back in early November. <BR/><BR/>I think if there was a "God-Women" conference it would be quickly shot down as some feminist event which was trying to subvert all males and their power. And to think that we could sing songs about our private parts and their powers (after all birth is a very powerful experience not to mention carrying life inside you).Corriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13771878099332439981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-15078481361016036902007-03-16T20:34:00.000-07:002007-03-16T20:34:00.000-07:00OOPS. "In another church, the saved the singing of...OOPS. "In another church, the saved the singing of modern choruses to after the benediction" should have read "...THEY saved the singing..."<BR/><BR/>I am not called the Typo Queen without reason.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01847552432061325769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-24388833937967856032007-03-16T20:32:00.000-07:002007-03-16T20:32:00.000-07:00First, I just wanted to make clear that, to the be...First, I just wanted to make clear that, to the best of my knowledge, "GodWomen" exists only in my imagination. Part of the intention of my post was to turn the concept of GodMen around in order to make a point.<BR/><BR/>Also, as far as I know, GodMen is not trying to be a church or trying to replace the church, so I'm not convinced that the regulative principle should apply to their events. <BR/><BR/>I used to belong to a church that followed the regulative principle. During that time, I found it interesting to note how different churches disagreed sharply on how exactly to apply the principle. I also found it a bit artificial and silly to observe the hairsplitting that sometimes took place. For instance, in our church, it was OK for a woman to speak in the church meeting BEFORE the official call to worship, but not after. In another church, the saved the singing of modern choruses to after the benediction.<BR/><BR/>At the same time, I greatly appreciate the intent of the regulative principle, as well as the intent of many within liturgical traditions. Certainly there is much that has crept into the church that does not belong there. Too many have forgotten that the intent of worship is to glorify God. We are not the audience; He is. We are certainly not the object or subject of worship; He is.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01847552432061325769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7123966.post-31700564899727940372007-03-16T17:14:00.000-07:002007-03-16T17:14:00.000-07:00I subscribe to the regulative principle of worship...I subscribe to the regulative principle of worship: that which is not required in worship is forbidden in worship.<BR/><BR/>We find biblical warrant for: preaching, praying, singing, offering tithes, benediction, and scripture reading in worship. So that's all we do. Basically, it's a puritan way of doing things.<BR/><BR/>So, when I see GodWomen or similar things, I quickly reject them on that basis alone. Although I very much like to FEEL good, to share, to express, and so forth - believe me, I do - I can't use that as a criteria for worship. I can't see from scripture that worship is about helping me or healing me, although I do experience being helped and healed.<BR/><BR/>I think it's about worshipping God, and the focus is 100% on Him. Any benefits to ourselves are secondary.<BR/><BR/>The Puritans are made fun of in this day, like they are a bunch of killjoys. Actually, outside of the public worship they had a lot of variety and interest in their lives. They smoke, they drank, etc. It was just in the public worship that they adhered to the regulative principle.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17421506990963764612noreply@blogger.com